“I know my target audience. “I post regularly and
promote all social. “Numbers won’t budge. Thoughts?” – My advice, personally,
would be to keep at it. It’s something that I
literally do seven days a week. There is not one day
that I had taken off in the last five years. You have to just crush it. You have to keep at it. – Did you ever get any
pushback to the word skinny? Skinny is one of these new
politically incorrect words like three years ago. – [Man] I wondered that too.
– You wondered that? Great, so I’m
answering the questions. You know it’s interesting, you
been doing this for a while. You’re actually in a better
place where I don’t think the word is as controversial but
24 months ago there was heat. Did you ever feel it? – All the time but I like that.
I like heat on me. There’s things I talk about on
my blog are camel toes, boob jobs, vagina steaming and
enemas like I could go on and on. I talk about really
controversial taboo subjects that no one wants to deal with. Having the word skinny
in the title is really fitting for the brand.
– Understood. – When you’re talking
about coconut lube the words skinny just–
– Fits right in. – Coconut oil is amazing
for lube though it really is. (laughs)
– This is a tremendous show. – Everyone go home and try it. You will not be sorry. It’s your birthday, DRock?
(laughter by all) – I think that there is
one thing, I do think that there is the
three, four years and then you have your moment. You look at it and it happens
all the time in real life. Amy Schumer, Amy Schumer’s
career has been going on for a decade. Kevin Hart, Kevin Hart was
working at that shit for 15, 12, 14 years and you
have your moment. The problem is, one thing I want
people to know is, it’s not your numbers growing, it’s
how do you feel about it. Currently my Snapchat
numbers are not growing. I’ve hit my kind of 30,000 views and I’ve been there
for about a month. I feel fine with that because I
feel I’m getting better at it. I know what I want to do next. I know I’ve been studying on
other things because the book has been coming out. I feel content with myself
even that’s against the numbers. Too many people, and this is I’m
sure we all think about, you’re going to be
thinking about it when you see
the podcast numbers as you start this new venture
this market is absolutely way too deeply focused on numbers. Now, Nick and Romando,
people buy on numbers, I get it. You make your short
term money on numbers. – Short. Not long game. – That’s right, short-term
money on numbers. So I would say, who is
the person again India? – Nicole. – Nicole, I would say if you
feel like you’re moving the needle and you feel
like you getting closer. And you can taste it,
none of us can tell you, then you keep at it. If you been watching right now
and you’re been trying to build your brand for 24 months, 36
months, you felt completely stagnant, both in the
numbers both in the heat you don’t get recognized. Less selfies, no selfies. No mentions, no friend even
knows you’re doing it, if you feel stagnant, I actually
compare this to wrestling. So stick with me, I know you
talk about coconut oil but I’m going to talk about WWF
wrestling for a minute. When you look at gimmicks,
gimmicks is like when you’re Mr. Perfect or your Red Rooster or
or what have you there are a lot of wrestlers that have three
or four gimmicks and then they become Stone Cold Steve Austin. And they been four the
things and it didn’t take but the new thing works. But the difference there
is that the character. I could’ve stopped doing the
wine thing and started a Jets thing and I could be
on ESPN right now. And then I did a business thing,
I have three things that I probably could have done as me. Wine, business and the Jets. Now I’ve done two. I may become a
Jets sportswriter. If you have other interests, if
you have a blog about root beer or skateboarding but you’re
also into clothes or jam or rollerblading if you feel very
stagnant for two or three years your system and your
thing might be right but your topic may be wrong to you. It may not be that moment in
time so that’s another version to think about this if you feel
in your heart and numbers a 24, 36 months stagnant. Because I do see people, I know
people right now, because I’ve been doing this since ’06 who
have been doing the same thing for 7, 8 years and there’s
nothing that’s going to happen. – Talent, you always
talk about talent. – It’s real.
– Yeah, it’s real. – And interaction, I think
interaction with people. – It is real. You have to have talent. If you don’t have talent in this
industry I think you’re going to get washed away. You have to know who
you are, like you said. You have to remain
authentic to yourself. If you think you have the
talent to be a blogger then blog every damn day. – How long were you doing
YouTube before this moment? – I started YouTube
in 2012 and then I was consistent this past August. – What happened in August
that made you get really going? – I was like I want to build
a business someday and I know having an audience is valuable. And so I just started
with travel vlogs. I love filmmaking. I love making videos. It wasn’t hard for me
because I love doing it. I also think that interaction
with people is so important. You can look at the numbers all
day but who is mentioning you on Twitter, who is retweeting
things, who was favoring things. – Is Twitter an
important platform for you? – Yes, it has
been so interactive. I only have about 5,000 followers
but everyone is so interactive and it’s an awesome– – Do you interact with
your YouTube comments? – Yes, I’m glad you
asked that question. When I had 3,000 followers
I made it a habit to comment to every single comment. Every single comment. It’s hard to do it now. – It’s so crazy to see all you
guys spur up from all of the theses that I
wrote seven years ago. It’s so crazy. – Yeah, I know.
I read Crush It! recently and I was like holy
shit he predicted the future. – Yeah, yeah.
– It is weird. – I’m telling you, I read that
influencer chapter today in your new book it’s refreshing to have
somebody with such a loud voice say it because it has been
what we have been thinking and working on and saying
five, six years now. – Sure. – Tell them about what happened
recently to me on a shoot ’cause you’ll appreciate it. – This kind of goes into
influencer marketing as well. A brand recently brought her
on to offer her voice and her perspective and it
was a video thing. Four videos, 30 seconds they
brought her in and they said hey going to stick to this script
you’re going to do this thing and had 15 people on set they
completely got away from her voice and it was like– – What’s the point?
Why do you want me– – I got fired up about
it because I said this brand’s on its way out. – It’s on its way out. – And it made me fired up about
her because her brand– – So what happened?
Did you do it? – No, I did it. I did the script
I did what they said but the point is they could’ve
hired a model or an actress to just read it. They don’t need a blogger. I’ll never do it again. Ever. – Using her voice and trying to
get her audience– – If they’re not going
to use my voice– – They had 15 people there, we produce six of those videos
in three hours with three of us. – They micromanage everything. I think brands need to let the
influencer do what they do best. – Well, let’s look at DailyVee. It’s literally DRock
and GaryVee and it works. You don’t have five
people following you around. – The curated things out. I think it’s on its way
so out, so done. – The bigger issue is the
people that follow you know that’s not you. – Yes, exactly.
– That’s what it is. That’s right. And there’s
no money that they can pay you that makes
it worth it for you. – Yep. – I mean I had early deals for
Wine Library TV before this was a real thing and a car company
wanted me to drive a car in to Wine Library. It was so wild and it was so
early days, and I was like, it was a lot of money at the time
and I didn’t do it because even then back in ’07, ’08 people are going to
think like forget it. Gary sold out. That was so scary. It’s so different now. – It’s a little bit more
accepted now but we refuse to sell ad space on the site.
– Yeah. Now, if I would’ve grown
up during this time, I would’ve done it. Back then it was just so… There wasn’t a single
video on YouTube that had 1 million views
when I started. This was 2006. How old are you in 2006? – I was in sixth grade. – Yeah. You know what I mean, it
was a different world. India, keep us moving. – Hi Gary! I’m Piper Reese from
@PipersPicksTV and I’m here at the Nickelodeon 2016 Kids
Choice Awards Orange Carpet.