“the future of
music is going to be? “How and where do you
earn most of your money?” – I’m actually very excited by
the disrupt in the music space. It’s deserved to be disrupted
for really quite a long time. And this deserved to fail and
I say that with all kindness. – You mean the people in the middle having
disproportionate economics? – Yeah, if I could do
a brief history of music. Musicians spent a long time
understanding who they were and what they offered as musicians. People call that a brand now. But they were
natural brand creators. And so Led Zeppelin
stood for something. You know, loving a
musician was like an ethos. It was an entire culture and
they were culture builders and they spent years cultivating
that culture on the road. Radio came along and it
just super boosted things. And there’s a golden time there
for when that happened and then radio became so
powerful people realized, “Hey, I don’t have to
have a whole great record. “I can have one good song,” and
then the record labels were like and we can charge for an entire
record with only one good song and the consumer
started going, “Hey, screw you guys.
I’m getting ripped off. “This is a sucky
record with one good song.” Enter the digital age
and people could say, “Oh good, I only have
to buy one good song.” – At first, they’re like, “Wait a minute, Napster.
I’m not buying shit.” – Yeah.
(group laughter) And streaming. I don’t personally feel that
music will be monetizable in a very foreseeable way. I think that we should focus
on musicians as brands and we’re lucky enough to use
music as our brand builder, as our calling card and the
future of the music business is learning to build
brands around artists. The artists get
to have equity in. – Yep. You know, obviously the
monetizing of live event. So I think access is
where all the magic is ’cause it’s the
limited resource. – Mhmmm.
– Right? So whether that means
in a show or one on ones or the brands they touch. I mean look, it’s funny
here you go with the brand move of the equity thing.
– Mhmmm. – When you think about the
economics 50 Cent made on just his sponsorship deal of Vitamin
Water let alone what you’re seeing now where
you’re, you know, celebrities and
musicians are getting 5, 10, 15, 30% of a
business before it launches on the back of their brand. It’s a very entrepreneurial
answer but it’s the truth. It’s a race to the bottom of
control of those economics. – Yeah. – Andy?
– [Andy] Cool.

– Hey Gary. I’m wondering what you think of
Snapchat and their recent way of selling their Spectacles, the
glasses with the vending machine and how you think that plays
in their marketing strategy? Thanks so much. – Oliver, Snapchat Spectacles. – I think they’re
kind of brilliant. I think they took something that
Google spent so much time and energy on but effectively was pretty nerdy and
they made it cool. – Yep. – Pop-up stores and
vending machines are social media worthy. – The distribution’s been crazy. – Yeah, exactly and if you
only have a small amount of them then make it special.
– That’s right. – So I saw a bunch on social
media last night about a store in New York that just popped up. – Yep.
– Yeah, I think it’s cool. – I think it’s a big play. I think it could be maybe the
saving grace move to their IPO. – Sure. – If you think about what
Instagram’s replication of a lot of their functionality has done
it’s created a scenario where there’s little more skeptics
talking about Snapchat’s growth. – Sure. – A lot of people
talking about their decline. – Instagram sucks
out the oxygen out of the room with stories. – So it becomes
Snap and to play, to me what’s most interesting
is Snapchat is the first social network that feels like a brand.
– Mhmmm. – You know, Snapchat
feels as much to me as Under Armour and Soul Cycle–
– Yep. – as it does Facebook or
Instagram and that crossover from just utility social network
to overall brand I feel like this captured that moment and if
they can pull that all the way through well then they
really have something. – And they really made it where you are the media, right?
– 100%. – And so that was part of
this exciting brand and then the filters and the tools
and the creativity– – And then you
think about the live. All they have to do is add an
update that allows that be live streaming and now all of a
sudden you got a whole thing. I’m pretty bullish on it. It’s early, I do agree that
they’ve made it cool what was $1500 and not cool from Google,
three years ago so we’ll see. Evan, from me from afar, continues to deploy
LA brand behavior in a San Francisco,
Silicon Valley world in a very good way. – Yep and they also making big
steps to be a media company. So you saw where they stopped
rev sharing and started buying content now as a
Netflix would do– – The garden walls of the
internet are popping up. – Yeah.
– Let’s keep it going. – [Dunk] Next
question is from John.

This is Ward from
London with one question. How much of the success of being
VaynerMedia do you think is down to the brand GaryVee? I think GaryVee might be the
best content marketing strategy in history so how much of the success of VaynerMedia
is down to that? What if GaryVee the brand was
not there and what if GaryVee was just running VaynerMedia
without producing any GaryVee content out there? So thank you.
– That’s a good question. Ward, I think he answer is both. I think I have the luxury of
proof being in the pudding as a 22-year-old in a five year
period, I grew a business from 3 to 65 million
in the old world. No capital, no real internet at
scale and so I’m proud that if Gary Vaynerchuk CEO not
out in the ecosystem started VaynerMedia seven years ago you
know it would be successful and the truth is of course it would
be because really here’s the punchline Ward nobody in
corporate America, Pepsi Campbells, the NHL, none of our earliest clients
gave a shit about me. You know what? 99% of my clients don’t now. Now, that would be naïve to not
understand that over the half decade that I’ve been really
running the company, first two years I was somewhat involved,
sales, mentorship with AJ and I was involved but I’m full pledge is what
I do for living now. GaryVee is this is my
side hustle, right. I think that
there’s been benefits. You know people walk in here. I can think of a brand we just
won that there’s the truth is it’s because of the
GaryVee stuff and so I think the answer’s both and I think
that’s what’s really cool. I think one day people will realize how much
I like to hedge. I think of it as a hedge like both matter they
help each other. One’s there if the
others not there. It’s kind of a little
bit of immigrant in me. For somebody who’s so on
the offense I’ve a lot of conservativeness and
practicality that is the foundation of what I do and
I think brings a lot of value to a lot of people watching if
they can get through the layers. And so, the answer is both. It’s a really smart question. I think many people
have done both. Plenty of people have done a lot
of business on the back of their brand when they
entered it. Right? Plenty of restaurants that
are named after famous, millions of things. Just clothing lines, unlimited
and many people are just unknown assassins. Met with a guy the other day he’s built two $400
million businesses. Never heard of them in my
entire life nor have you. You can’t even find anything
about him and you know they have the humility and the kind of
personality that allows that. And so everything works,
not everything works for you. Plenty of people built huge
agencies not being known, just operators and there’s been agencies built on the
backbone of individuals. P Diddy’s agency is P Diddy
and great people that he hired underneath but it
wouldn’t have been there.

Had a blast having
you on my show earlier this year
to talk about your new book #AskGaryVee. I read the book. It is amazing. I got a lot of
good stuff from it. I’ve been sharing it
with some of my interns, and my friends, and coworkers
so thank you so much. Today I have a question for you. I’m releasing a book
next month, it’s called Without Bruises: A Journey
to Hope, Help, and Healing. It’s telling my personal story being in a relationship
with a sociopath and, you know, going from
mental and emotional abuse. Well, I am trying to figure out, do I stick with JJ, who
is the radio personality, to market this book or
do I need to stay away because I feel like I can
reach a bigger audience but I’m not sure
if that audience is really ready for the girl
with the shaved hair, tattoos who’s at
the hip hop station. So maybe you can give
me some advice on that. Thanks, Gary, love you. – I’ll take this one first
then you jump in Simon. JJ, look,
the bottom line is it’s not 1984 anymore, it’s 2016. You’re not going to
hide from who you are. People are going
to figure out you have a shaved head and tattoos.
– Yeah. – You can go under a pseudonym, you can go in disguises. They’re going to
figure out who you are. So, I think everybody
wins when they go all in. Listen, I, you know, first 60 episodes
of Wine Library TV, 2006, ten years ago. I was tempered
a little bit because I was scared that the
people on Wall Street and these rich people
that were buying hundreds of thousands
of dollars a year of wine from me would realize
I loved wrestling and football, and I cursed,
that I was Jerseyed out. The truth is the
second I realized, wait a minute,
if people like this show with 80% of me, what’s
really going to happen the second I went all-in on me it became a
totally different outcome and really I’ve never
looked back, both in the wine industry
and who I am today. There are plenty
of people in the marketing book
world that don’t love me. I think the closer one is to me. – Who? – I don’t know.
– No. – People, you know–
– No. – There’s a LinkedIn
post right now, where I saw somebody
write of why GaryVee is really great at social media and the first comment
with four likes from other people is, “I would want to do
nothing like GaryVee.” And I’m like, well,
there’s five people. (laughs) I mean, you know,
you know, and I get it. And I get it but
I think what you have to take pride in, JJ, and
everybody, is if you could live a life where
the people that know you the best like you
the most, you win. I love that my assistants,
when we were talking about India’s one week,
like the people that know more
about my truth win. Like as we’ve gotten to know each other–
– Yeah. – We’ve liked each other–
– It’s true. – More and not less
and that’s the game. – That’s true, I mean,
what’s the definition of authenticity, right? Everybody’s like
trying to be authentic. – (laughs) Right. – But nobody talks about
what authenticity is. Authenticity is saying
and doing the things you actually believe and
so to create divisions, one of them is
inherently inauthentic. So in one of them you’re
either being dishonest or you’re faking it so– – Or you’re hedging, right? – Where you’re hedging.
– Hedging. – So–
– Hedging is what pisses me off. – So, I mean,
you are who you are and you want to
bring that personality. And at the end of the
day, the more authentic you are in all of your work, the more the people who
love you for who you are will take your work and
help spread it for you. Those are champions
but it’s very hard to even find champions
if you’re always hedging and trying to be what
somebody else wants you to be. – JJ, I think you’ve got
a misread on America. I really do. – People like you
for you and they like you for your message.
– A hundred percent. And especially, if you’re you. For example–
– Neither of us, neither of us fits the role that we expect. And I show up to
these meetings in jeans and things and Gary, you know, he curses and
he shows these things. But people like
us for who we are. And the people who don’t like us for who we are don’t invite us and that’s totally fine. – I also think that
you’ve got to understand the American psyche, right. They’re not going to care
as much about tattoos and shaved heads and
things of that nature. America forgives
everything except if you’re trying to deceive them. Like you can literally do
anything in this country, probably outside of murder,
and get away with it, as long as you
don’t try to pull one over on us, right? Presidents have proved that, the most famous
people have proved that. We will forgive
all day but if you try to make us a sucker
because you’re trying to put one over on us–
– Yeah. – We hate that.
– Yeah. – That’s it.
– Be yourself. – Is that it? – There’s one more.
– One more? – Be yourself.
– Let’s do it.

– What’s going on Gary?
Big fan. My name is Ted Bettridge and I’m a 13-year-old graphic
designer from the UK. I’ve recently started my design
company and I’m presenting it on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat
and just about to start YouTube. I’m proud of being a 13-year-old
designer and I think I can use that as a growth hack to make
myself better known out there. But some clients when they find
out that I’m 13 take that back as a negative without
actually seeing my work and knowing the full story. So how would you recommend me
going around presenting myself and my business as a
13-year-old designer? Cheers Gary. – Cheers mate. Teddy, listen, I think you’re
all excited up front of like I’m gonna differentiate myself
by being 13 and then you’re like but some clients don’t like it. Of course.
You’re 13. Literally Andy has
speakers older than you. Right? This is unbelievable. And your composure and
your charisma on the video, you’re going to be very successful. I have a funny feeling at
whatever you decide to do. The same way I met Dunk
when we met in the hotel room. I’m like, “You’re
coming to America.” Some young kids just have it. I could tell way more because
I spent more time with them to know that he did have it. I’m not sure about you that’s a
good first impression for me. Getting on the show at all. But here’s the reality, my
friend, Ted, you’re going to learn this at 13, you’re going
to learn this at 16, you’re going to
learn this at 19, you’re going to
learn this at 27, you’re going
to learn it at 40. How old are you?
– [Niklas] 53. – You look great.
You’re going to learn it at 53. As I’m sure you know what
I’m about to say is true, you gotta take the
good with the bad. You gotta take the
good with the bad. For everybody who’s going to
give you notoriety or write an article about you our actually
use you ’cause you’re 13 there’s going to be people that don’t. For everybody that loves that
I keep it real and authentic there’s plenty of people
that don’t want to work with me because I curse or because I push against the
traditional systems. – Not at Social
Media Marketing World. – Did they like it?
– Yeah. – Yes, they did, you’re right. The punchline is very
simple which is this, Teddy, you need to be you. Don’t hide that you’re 13 ’cause you think you’ll
earn more money. You’re 13 and if you got real
talent, that’s going to serve you extremely well. I think the reality is
how would I play it? By just being you and doing your
thing and not dwelling on the negatives and not getting too
big headed about the positives. Don’t get too upset when
somebody cancels an order when they found out you’re 13 and
don’t think you’re hot shit just ’cause somebody wrote some cool
Business Insider headline that says 13-year-old stuns with
his graphical design skills. – [Niklas] Wonderful.
– Thank you.

– [Voiceover] Blake asks, “What
are your thoughts on breaking out in the world of politics
and branding the right way?” – The politics thing has
been very interesting. It’s been very much on my
mind as it probably is for most people in UK and the US with
all the things going on in those countries and probably
a lot of places but what I’m familiar with. The truth is if I was born in
America I really, really, really would run for
president in eight years. (laughter) I’m not even joking. But I wasn’t and so I’m not and
I don’t want to be the governor. Do I think politics is
a place of opportunity? Do I think that politics has
clearly in the last 10 years because of social media, because
of the way the world works, because of where the environment
in the US politics landscape sits today do I think there will
be a lot of people who can use media to give
themselves a real shot in mayor, governor,
senator, President campaigns? Of course, it’s been proven. I think it’s going to be a very
intriguing 50 years in politics. Because I do believe the
landscape change, everything I believe in marketing and
business deploys to society. The issues we’re dealing with,
racism, we’re going to have to look at everything. We’re about to live through an
unbelievable time in human race. Because all of this, we have
five cameras going right now. I had like 10 people
stop me today, DRock. There’s so much going on. There’s a lot going on. And I’m just showing a blueprint
like I’ve always done so many of you are starting to
feel the effects of this. I see it I’m getting a lot more
emails and social media content from you guys of results
that are happening for you. eBay people that are
making tons of money. People that are vlogging. Musical.ly, busting out there. Influencer marketing. There’s something in the air. – [India] From Sam.
– Sam. – [Voiceover] Sam asks, “How do
you find your motivation again

– Hello GaryVee, my
name is Nacer Abdelli, I’m from Algeria, in Africa, and this is my hometown. – Amazing, he loves English peas. – So I’m a teacher of English
Content on social media. – This is awesome. – And life skills, and
I have some questions to ask you about that
because you have a series on all of them. And this also, you’re
taking care of, thank you. – You’re welcome. Oh I got the thumbs up too. – So I started skydiving,
and after 200 jumps, I will be able to put on
a wing suit and jump with it over our national
monument here in Algiers. I’m going to be the first
wing suit pilot in the country, and this is going to be the
first suit jump ever before. – That’d scare the crap out of me. – [India] I know I’m
terrified watching this. – Okay so my question is
about blended personal brand. (inaudible) How can I manage the education
and extreme sports content given that they’re very different, what should I do about it? How would you go about it? – You know a lot of you
follow me and you’ve heard time and time again, one
channel, one channel, but my friend,
I’m glad you asked this, this is the nuances, and this
is why the show is so great. I would actually, and it’s funny, but I would do separate channels and I’ll tell you why. Your first place that you
established is so utilitarian. Wine Library TV,
though about wine, though about
information about wine, still had a lot to do
with my personality, with Gary, which then allowed me to kind of blend stuff. You’re doing hardcore
utilitarian education content, what I don’t know is how
much it is of you my friend. Looking through there you
seem very charismatic. So if you feel like a lot
of people watch the first thing because of your charisma, then I think you
can blend it in one. But if you think they’re
there just to learn English, and it’s a utility for them, you could start having
a schizophrenic issue at hand when you start showing
them the skydiving stuff. What I would say is
the following, for you, this is my individual
advice matters. I would create
separate channels. I would use your
personal Instagram, your personal Twitter, like
I think you can mix them, but from a YouTube
standpoint I would have them as separate channels, and I would once in a
while mix them in social, and maybe even once,
like maybe in one video, like by the way, like I would
almost call it By The Way, BTW, this is something else I do. This way it’s kind of
almost a commercial within your other channels,
you can cross pollinate, that would be my strategy. – [India] Nice. I need to show
you the ending of this video.

“as a retailer selling
someone else’s brand?” – Ah, I remember this
one, I sent this to you. I like this one because
I wanted to go tactical. You know it’s so funny, talk
about the ying and yang meet. Like, I also don’t want
this to get too heavy and philosophical,
I want to go tactical. Anybody who’s a retailer
that’s struggling with like wait a minute, I sell sneakers, so am I going to
make Nike content, or Adidas content, or
Under Armour content, and put it out, who is this again? – [India] This is from Matthew. – Matthew, read it one more time, cause guys check this out,
I think this is interesting, how? – [India] How do you create content as a retailer selling
someone else’s brand? – Right, this is so interesting. As a retailer, you sell
somebody else’s brand. That’s the definition of
a retailer unless you’re selling retail your product, and you’re the
Under Armour store, right? So, I really got a kick
out of this question. I think it’s when people
are looking at the lens the wrong way. We live in a world now where
brands are creating content for themselves, at scale,
and I wonder if Michael, Michael right? – [India] Matthew.
– Matthew, I’m sorry, thank you, if Matthew is looking at
this wrong because he sees the optics of brands
creating content. If it’s what you sell,
you create content. Wine Library creates content
of other brands all the time because we are a retailer, and we’re trying to
sell this Pinot Grigio. It is not our Pinot Grigio,
it is somebody else’s, but we’re creating content
because we’re making margin, and we’ve chosen in
the world of business to be a retailer. Matthew, the way you create content, if you are a retailer of
other people’s brands, is to create content of
other people’s brands. – [India] Free content
or something like that? – You know, its what you do, if you sell other people’s
brands you make content. Now, what you could be asking, and more detail oriented,
back to being practical, is you may have to follow
guidelines of a brand when you’re producing content. I think you need to be
conscious of putting those brands in a good light, because they’re you’re supplier, and they are more than
capable of discontinuing you selling that product, so you have to be political
about what that is, but you also have to
find a different angle, that is your angle,
from the brand’s. I think one of those
places is price. You know most brands
are not going to price because they know the
retailers are selling things at different prices, so their content in the ecosystem is more jab-oriented branding, you could actually be more
in the right hook business. This Pinot Grigio got 90
points from Wine Spectator and is on sale for $11.99, so you could, you know, those are kind of things
a retailer does. You could also create
content of that product within your retail store, and so you’re showing
it in that environment. Again, another thing
brands won’t normally do, because they don’t want to
allude to being favorite, picking a favorite from
one retailer to another. So use the advantages
that you have that you know the
mothership brand won’t do, but you can possibly do, and I think for all of you, now leveling us up back
to the theme of yesterday, I’m trying to do that
more in the show. I think way too many people
dwell on what they can’t do, instead of realizing
what they can do, right? So focus on the things
that make you uniquely you, and do the things that you know
that other people can’t do. Whether that’s your partners, like a supplier and a retailer, or that’s your competitors, they happen to be in this state, you happen to be in Colorado, and you have pretty mountains,
use that to your advantage. You know, like I can’t
make mountain content here. – [India] You hate mountains.

– Hey Gary, hey Fredrik, hey
India, hope everything is well. I’m so excited to be part of the
show and I hopefully make this but I am interested is it better
focus on branding or better to focus on transactions when you
are starting out as a new agent in the luxury market
in New York City. Oh my God, I’m so excited. (laughter) – Lenny, the man. – Both. – By the way, I’m
going to stop you. – Okay, good.
This is your show. – That’s the fucking answer.
– I’m just the guest. – That’s the fucking answer. What people don’t understand
is branding and sales. Because he looks at me as a
human check running around and he wants to be transactional
he’s gonna win in the same way that I think sales
matters so much. But much like him and he
accomplishes it his way I think what has made me successful at the level that
we’re at is branding. And branding, what’s remarkable
is his charisma and that moment in time and I don’t know why the
picked him or what happened the serendipity a lot of those
things, he had that opportunity at a huge scale. The fact that all of you have
the opportunity to make a video be on this and now hundreds
thousand people will see the internet has changed everybody’s
opportunity for brand but selling is hustle.
– Yeah. – Selling is hustle. – You got to back it
up with the deals too. – For sure. – My advice to anyone new in
anything especially real estate or sales is to be not eccentric as long as authentic. It has to be genuine.
Right, be you. I was so nervous when I first
came here, I locked up myself and I wasn’t–
– You weren’t you. – Yeah. Right, because I thought if I
told people who I was and was gay came from Sweden all the
thing that I do today I would never be hired or fired
or all of those things. Now, reality TV in some ways
taught me the the hard way because I’m allowed
to be this crazy guy. So, anyway, in the beginning if
it’s 60,000 sales real estate agents in Manhattan
just be you and own it. Everybody loves to see
somebody who is authentic. That’s my, that’s
branding to me. – Staphon, I’m going to make you
do a little work which will make this episode come out a little
later but before 9 PM Eastern. I want you to show some clips… We have all these
video interns now. I want you to show
four or five clips from episode 12, 19, 22
of Wine Library TV. I was running a very large wine
shop and I had these very high end clients who were spending
400 or $500,000 a year on wine so think about that and the first 40 or 50,
the first 80, I actually know the number, the first 80
episodes of my wine show I was very reserved. Hey guys, it’s me. Gary Vaynerchuk Wine Library TV. Hello everybody and welcome to a wonderful episode of
Wine Library TV. I’m your host Gary Vaynerchuk. Hello everybody and welcome to an action-packed episode
of Wine Library TV. I am your host Gary Vaynerchuk. – Really?
– Yes. – You’re not reserved now–
– Correct. Well this is why I’m jumping in.
– No, I like it. – The show was doing extremely
well it was early YouTube, the first year of YouTube it was
starting to get going and I was like wait a minute if they think
I’m entertaining now if they knew what I was really like
and I just said screw it. After episode 80– – You jumped off a cliff.
– I just jumped off the cliff. I said look I’m going to
be me I may lose 10 I’m going to gain 100. – You can’t please everyone.
You just don’t. And it’s a better
way to living anyways. – 100%. Frederik, I know you
need to run, talk you just gave I want you to
do a very important thing here.