I’m going to school even though
I know I should just be doing business or
becoming an entrepreneur, how do I, what do you think,
just finish school and do it or what do you think? – Well, let’s break it down. Why are you staying in school? Are you doing it
for your parents, are you doing it for yourself or
do you still have some thoughts that an education
is a good backup plan? What’s your truth?
Don’t bullshit me, Ren. – [Ren] Honestly,
self doubt and that’s it. – I love you for that. I love you so
much, Ren, for that. So now the question
becomes why do you have that? What do you have in your
history that creates that? Have you been able, the one
thing that allows kids to make the jump if they have self doubt is if they have a
history of making money. What allowed me to never be scared was I knew
I could make a dime. Have you have selling or
entrepreneurial background as a teenager, as a kid? Have you ever made
money selling shit? – [Ren] Oh yeah, Gary. I was like in third grade my
friends were playing outside and my family didn’t have
money so I was mowing lawns, washing cars and
doing all that stuff. I used to get in trouble in
middle school because I used to sell candy bars during class. – Ren, let me
ask you a question. Are you willing to live in your
parents’ home or somewhere else like real super ghetto
basement with seven friends? Do you need to be fancy ’cause
you want to hook up and play that part or if it’s burning
you inside and you’re willing to live very humbly and eat shit
food for a while and not have fancy things and just work on your business then
you can make that jump. That’s really
what it comes down to. – [Ren] Mhmmm. Yeah, I know a lot of people
say that they would but I know myself and I would be fine. When I went to my year
in college I was debating on sleeping in my car just to save tuition money so
I could open something up. – Listen, Ren,
to be very honest, just even going through this
talk I think you win either way. If you want to take
these next couple years, work out your doubt issues and maybe get into
a place where you can– Phil can you answer that question ’cause I got
Tyler tied up in the show. If you want to work out those
issues and get into a place where you have some fun and not
have that responsibility and you want to go out and party
and things of that nature, I think that’s super fine. But I also think asking you those questions
I think you’re in a place. You can’t tell them,
I need 15 minutes. Let them know.
I think you’re also in a place where you’ll be okay
if you make that jump. I think you’re in a
good spot either way, I like your vibe. – [Ren] Alright, man.
Thank you so much. – [Ren] Hey Gary, I know you
probably got to go but one day

“would you contribute of where
you are today your degree?” – Absolutely zero. Zero. I didn’t get the
PhD for success. I got a PhD for the patience. I got the PhD for the process. – When did you get a PhD?
– Last year, May. – Did you think you,
you know what this is a real good opportunity. On a real serious kick, I think
what makes this show good is I’m super not scared.
Talk me through the PhD. Did you feel like that that
was a smart strategic thing to create a little more air cover
so that you had more room to do your thing. For real, for real? – For me Gary, I was trying to
and when I first walked in you talked about business.
– Yep. – And I told you
I build people– – Yes. – but building people
doesn’t always pay well. – I understand. – So I had to put myself
in a different market,– – I understand. – then what I originally wanted
to be when I started, right? – Yeah, yeah. – But what happens when you’re
from Detroit, like I am, one of the most segregated cities
United States of America, I did not have the code, the language
or the rules to get in the game that I wanted to play in.
– That’s right. – So for me Michigan State gave
me that opportunity to go to class and hear that language. To get in an environment
for six years and be a part of the rules. So, you can’t play the game
if you don’t know the game. So, the degree to me was about, it doesn’t make
Detroit bad. It doesn’t make my community
bad, but there’s some things I need to operate on this level. – It’s interesting
you even went there. I’m so fascinated
that you said that. I’m fascinated that in your
mind, it processed that this thing could be a counter move
to making that thing look bad. It’s actually a massive insight that people
grossly underestimate. It’s a thing that I grew up with
in a different way, you know, I came to this country because Jews were persecuted
the Soviet Union. My parents and grandparents grew
up in an environment where they were blamed for the world war. My grandparents, both
my grandfathers went to jail for being Jewish. And I think that people don’t
understand that being a minority somewhere, Jewish in Europe,
African-American in America, there’s a psyche that people
don’t understand which is you hear, you hear us white guys
here hear selling out, you know, Uncle Tom getting away from, it’s so much deeper
than you think. – So much deeper. – Let me tell you where I’m
going with it, I’m actually going a very left turn on this, most of you are so molded by your parents you can’t even
wrap your head around it. And there’re certain things your
parents put in you, that you were scared to break against
because you don’t want to let them down even though you might hate your parent or
what have you. It’s unbelievable to
me that you went there. That the success of PhD had to be hedged in
your mind through your word that that’s
not bad on Detroit. – Nuh-uh. – That to me is such an
insight that we need to have a conversation in general about
people understanding that having something good happen,
doesn’t trigger a negative event somewhere else and that is
something we’re all dealing with in our own versions. – And so for me it was like, E,
if you can’t, if there’s certain arenas you can’t operate
on if you don’t know it. Can’t play football if you
don’t, here’s the thing I hate; okay, so what I do for a living
I hate Gary that a guy thinks he’s gonna do what I’ve done for
20-something years, he’s gonna watch my videos, he’s just
gonna do it for five months, five years and boom
he’s the next ET. – Wait a minute, ET, you mean
you can’t register Seven Figure Mastermind Instagram
account and become that? Yeah. – I mean it’s real.
– The realist. – I realized that, ET, you have
what you think is success but you get that PhD
you’re gonna understand it. It’s like another language, Gary, it’s like
another language. Like another world. – You like being a student?
– I love, I love it. Not reading but
I love being a student. – Yeah, it’s interesting,
I don’t like reading. – I don’t want people thinking
we’re contradicting ourselves. – Yeah, yeah, no. It’s interesting,
it’s interesting. Huh. I like that, okay.
What was a question? – [Andy] As a PhD
what percentage– – Got it.
– Oh, ok, zero. – Zero, okay good. Zero. – [Andy] Video question. It’s your boy Zain coming from
Sydney, Australia and

– I would probably if I was
allowed to on a university level I probably would be and
obviously take out the economics, could we afford to,
I would try and get them out of the room, out of the classroom
as much as possible whether physically or mentally and what
I mean by that is mentally we would be in our
apps doing, creating. I would get kids out of, if I was
in Chapman in California I would go to local businesses I would
take the 29 kids in class we’d go to Lou’s pizza shop. Be like “Lou, we’re here.
And were here to work. “What do you need?” I very much believe, I’m so
proud of you I was so thankful that you reached out to me and
you’re taking us up on this week because you’re
going to go be better. You’re gonna go back to school
and what you’re gonna learn this week you’re going to be better. – Yeah.
– Because it’s real. This is real.
– Mhmmm. – The classroom is less real. It’s less of the
market, it just is. My answer to your question is I would force them
to do real shit. – Yeah. – I would just try to get them
do as much real stuff as much as possible. You can watch GaryVee videos,
you can read books, you can pontificate,
you can debate but nothing beats getting thrown. I can tell kids about swimming. Okay, so what you
want to do is, right? I can tell you. We can debate what
the best stroke is. But how are you going
to be a good swimmer? You’re going to throw
that kid in the pool. I would put the kids in as many
real life situations as possible and I would do in a
couple different ways. One, I would try to use my
connections if I was allowed to based on this fantasy world
you’ve created and get them to go to Under Armour or a Toyota
see how they think about it. But then I’d also do a
competition the last three weeks of the semester
I would say okay we’re all going to go to the
farmer’s market. You all have three weeks to
figure out what you’re going to sell in a farmers market and
then all you can use is digital for the whole three weeks
leading up to it and then whoever sells the
most fruit wins. Try to get them into that kind
of mentality because I think that matters. I’m very scared, Professor,
of eighth place trophies. I’m very scared of rewarding people for success
that isn’t real. We would have the fruit and
vegetable farmers market competition and then the
next day in class I would say unbelievable job Sally and
I would say Elliott you suck. You are a loser, you sold eight
dollars in radishes and let’s break down why you sucked. Your Instagram was boring, I don’t know what the hell
you were thinking. Your radishes look like shit
so let’s start with the biggest thesis which is no
marketing fixes crap product. So these are the things
that we would go through. – Thank you.
– You’re welcome. – I will use this for my class.
Thanks.

– [Computer] Gary, India, Landon, I just had a quick question
what did you guys think about the NCAA and their policy
that restricts athletes from getting sponsorships. and money essentially. I know
it’s kind of a big issue for them. – It’s a real taboo issue. – [Computer] Well they kind of
have a right seeing that they’re on the road 24/7 and these
coaches get paid a bunch of money. – I mean look everybody’s got–
– [Computer] What you think about their ethics and what
can a business decision is that? Thank you very much
Gary, Landon, India. – Yeah, how are you going to
integrate that into the episode the video? You did it? – [Andy] Yeah.
– You had it. Talent. – [Andy] Soft copy of it. – Talent, man.
– Talent. So I think that, look I think is
a hotbed issue. I think plenty of people say
well they get their school paid for. Me personally, Gary, thinks
it’s complete horseshit. I think every college athlete
should be paid, period, end of story. I think the universities
exploit it aggressively. It feels very communistic. I’m not a fan of it. I think that the athletes should
be paid and that’s how I feel about it. Very simple.
Very, very binary. But I think the taboo issue. I have a lot of friends that get
mad at me when we drink a glass of wine on this issue but they
get their college paid for and this that and the other thing. To me it is just economics. They’re making
drillions of dollars on these kids performances. These kids are being treated
like professional athletes. These kids are
not going to class. These guys are practicing 40, the practice schedules of these professional athletes especially
at the tiers where the TV deals are men’s college basketball,
women’s college basketball, men’s college football, softball on ESPN now. They keep building
bigger and bigger schedules. They’re being treated like
professional athletes and they’re not being compensated
that way and an unbelievable majority of them never make
it to the professional level. And ever are able to cash in
on the dollars they dropped in university so I think
they should be paid. I’m pretty emotional about it
for them but it is what it is. There’s plenty of
things that upset me. You have any thoughts on that? – I don’t know. I don’t think I agree with
you as binary as– – Yeah.
– you describe it and it’s straightforward. But I think I could
easily be weighted that way. But I look at it as university is primary
number one needs to be a place of higher education. I didn’t go to college.
I wish I did. – Yep. – I’m fortunate that I get to
make my living that I’m actually making a living driving. – Yep. – But it concerns me like if
they set up a way to start paying football players the
effects of the 99% of them that don’t make it professionally and
what they did during their time in college when they were
making $50,000 a year playing professional college football
and not going to class because they were making their living. And now all of a
sudden they didn’t make it. You know, so I’m a little
worried some of the problem there. – The problem from my standpoint
that’s a romantic point of view because those same kids are
not going to class anyways. They’re not pumping out of the
University of Michigan and going on to have these illustrious
careers because of their education. First of all I have my own
problems of college to begin with, forget
professional athletes. Person that goes to Michigan and
leaves with a degree reality in today’s marketplace is
a whole ‘nother issue. We don’t have enough time for
this because I can get really emotional about this. – The thing that’s absolutely
dead on that you’re so right about is the cornerstone of the
whole argument is they’re making hand over fist. – Guys the SEC
contract with ESPN, these rules were implemented in a time when these
universities were not making anywhere close to these dollars. It’s become, (speaking Russian)
it’s a great Russian saying. It’s very basic. It’s like everything is
great when it’s balanced. From 1961 the amount of money
colleges were making on these athletes were more in the universe karma balance fairness. Today? You have a star player, do
you know how many Johnny Manzel Texas A&M jerseys were sold? I mean forget it. Anyway. – [India] I thought this
question was really cute

daniela asks I’m an immigrant with an
entrepreneurial dream all my parents care about his college which I hate any advice that stuff um did you get pressure to be a good
student no I came from one of those famous words is expected that but I’m
right there was not even writing every so I I came from we’re going to work
even a conversation on it just wasn’t a conversation I I came from one of those
weird families where high expectations were always there but my parents were
not very good at being parents and so it was basically ignored so i kinda raised
myself but unconsciously yes ceilings no only child child yeah and I think
unconsciously I understood at a very young age that the adults were never
going to help me no one was coming to help me and so I
had to learn like the system as its presented to you is bullshit and the only gift they gave me about
being terrible parents is that I was never fold by the lies that the system
tells you like school right I learn about half the system you feel
like early on you made a decision that you weren’t
getting value from your parents and thus every grown up during your youth you looked in a cynical point of view
not just the grown-ups but the actual systems of the grown-ups all operating
represented whether it’s work or whether it’s corporations or school it’s not that everything is invalid it’s
just that the the face that they present is never the reality it’s so interesting I on the other hand had amazing parents right but came to that
same realization at a very young age that I mean those are interesting
different paths to get to that place so it’s really dictated my life where I was
like oh my god I’m not this and like I’ve got another cheese I was in fourth
grade for sure I’m i crack another nine years of eating
this ship what you got out early i’m like how do i how do I break this system
how I have to make it work for me yeah you decided to win within it I decided
to literally go on vacation because i realized i subconsciously I was never
going to be on vacation again you know it’s funny is i think if we’re
talking about unconscious uh I think I I realized I had no other support you a
great parent yard I have this other world like you going – I knew my healing
i need this right i just like with this system so that I have because I don’t
have anyone like the persisting daniela i’m going to give you very difficult
device I really think you need to have the most
honest and truthful conversation we’ve ever had with your parents and then
react to their reaction i think if you really i don’t know if you’ve ever gone
there all the way we’re like this is really ruining me like like not like hey
mom and dad I don’t like school it’s like I’m suffocating and truly believe
my life will not be as good as it could be if i go down this path watching your parents reaction to those
words for made them would be will give you a really good indication because
then you get to understand are your parents wired to really value you and
what you have what where you are and what’s in your
best interest from your point of view or do they really care about their point of
view and what their child’s success means to them I become very fascinated you might have
better in saying this i grew up in a way where I didn’t know like the fancy world
and select bumper stickers of colleges on cars like like parents telling kids
to take on college debt and better schools wait a minute that’s in their
interest cuz they get the color friends at university chicago is real fancy
maybe some punk tamesha and Xander went fairly I’m like holy crap that’s interesting well so i think it’s
fantastic advice let me just add one sort of your way to frame this so when
you go talk to your parents I think the way to frame it is not
here’s my argument because you’re never going to convince someone with a
compelling argument or very rarely what you want to do is start by asking them
questions do you care about me how much do you care what do you really
care about what matters the most to you man what they’re going to say is we care
about you being happy we care about you finding yourself about you what are
right now get them to commit to that and then say
all right if you really do care about me and you really do it does matter to you
that I’m this happy I’m going to tell you I don’t want to go
to school because it makes me very college makes me very happy and trying
these other things for a year to is going to be much happier it will you support me as i do something
at least four and you can even find its temporary give me a year to support me and if it
doesn’t work I’m happy to go back to call and support me mentally right like
the financial records that slowly but i’m not i know that emotional i know
that i want to i want to bring that up for people and i would say the other
thing like look like there’s casualties of war and your parents are not going to
be around for your casualties of what they think is in your better interest in
verses you i mean the gift that I was given that i really wish I could you
know stick into every goddamn person is the audacity and competence at a very
young age to just say this is the deal like like that independence is
incredible and like and that’s hard for a lot of people but like if you’re
asking me on this show it to me actions speak louder than words if you
publicly treated this and asked me and wanted me to answer you’re just looking for somebody to push
you over the finish line many of you are watching this and think it but would
never to be publicly and fear that your parents would see it you’re clearly this close and you need
somebody to not do i will indulge you I mean I really do think there are real
moments in time to say go fuck yourself mom and dad it’s real and it’s really nothing bad
cool and growing out from this is it like this is a crossroads and a lot of
people get forced to do it there are kids with massive debt because
they want to appease their parents and they lose they lose because they kick
their twenties and don’t take the risk reward things they should be doing to
just pay down the debt and then wake up 34 and they just finally aren’t men from
something that they decided at 17 because their parents question of a
hundred percent yeah in their pit now that I’ve got older and spending time
appearance in the appearance vested interest of vanity that’s the worst that let’s do one more
well because i’m going to go to the speaker parents I gotta go run to
misha’s school and hey sorry I missed

“I’d like to know what you
feel makes a great teacher?” – I think what makes a great
teacher is one that doesn’t impose what they want the
student to learn but the person that actually audits
the student and understands where to point them. A counter puncher, per se, more
so than somebody who’s got a strict blueprint and
whether or not you fit into that blueprint is irrelevant. I, teacher Rick, am going to
make you go down this path and this is what you have to learn
and I think it’s a huge mistake. It’s my biggest problem
with curriculum in traditional schooling. It does not account
for the creative. The over smart the
slightly different. And what it’s trying to do is
to create an 80% of these type of output workers. And the 20% either pro or con
get kind of left along the way. And so I think a
great teacher listens. And a great teacher reacts and
a great teacher deploys empathy and understands there’s other
things can sniff out there’s problems at home if you’re in
the younger years or as an older I feel like I’m a teacher and
I feel like one of the biggest things that I try to say all
the time is I’m just telling you what works for me, please don’t,
I don’t tell you have to work 18 hours a day. I don’t tell you you
have to do anything. I tell you that
this is what works. These are some theories and
use the context around that. I think a teachers need a
lot more listening skills and adjustment to the reality versus
how they were taught or what they’re trying to
accomplish by year’s end. By year’s end, these
23 students are going to know how to do multiplication.
It’s so tactical. It doesn’t feel like a teacher
at all and I question and I push and I prod and I poke and I battle a lot of my
teaching friends of are you just checking
the box for your eight months a year job to get it through to
hit tenure to be in a union that never creates any vulnerability
or are you actually trying to teach these kids? And I hope everyone
understands I’m not pumped I’m not cynical against
teachers. I don’t think teachers, I don’t. I think a lot of times,
sometimes people when they hear micro answers from me think
I’m tough on teachers or this and that nature,
I’m mad at the game. I wish teachers got
paid $400,000 year. I send my kids to private
school I spent a lot of money. I don’t like the system that a
lot of people K-12 have to play within and I think a lot of
those talented teachers could be doing unbelievable things
and I’m so excited show the computer. Not that computer, by the
time it actually happens, I’m so excited actually
it’s probably contact lenses I’m so excited for this. Because so many of the great
teachers in the world won’t have to play within the confines of
the politics of the traditional school system and will teach, be
way more profitable and make a much bigger and this is a big
one make much bigger impact on their students lives. – [Voiceover] Ben asks, “Would
you consider adopting children?”

are in the field I don’t currently want
to work in Lodi there’s a lot of things you can do you can use your career and
your diploma as a proxy to people and show them that you’re able to accomplish
things that you have set your goals out to do while acknowledging that you are
now shifting those goals in your life the truth is nobody’s going to penalize
you for making a shift into a new arena you just have to consider you just have
to convince that decision maker that all the skills and drive and talent that you
deployed there are going to be acceptable in this new world you know
let’s just say for example that you made your entire career living in the wine
business as a merchant and then decided that you wanted to run one of madison
avenue’s most premier digital shops that would take some convincing and you do
that by convincing and then you do it by doing and so much like many people have
had different careers and they’ve gone from much like you know what you’re like
the rock the rock was a successful wrestler but we didn’t think he was
going to be a superstar movie actor until he did it so in the beginning he
had to commence decision-makers directors producers agents the market
that he was capable and then you get your at-bats I marky mark is now one of
the great successful entrepreneur people whose name is Mark Wahlberg he’s a
superstar he’s a businessman we didn’t think marky mark was gonna cross Justin
Timberlake was in a boy band with some curly ass hair didn’t think he’d be one
of the great musicians of our generation or some did it so I would say that it’s
very easy you just have to think about this I think it’s going to be quite easy
for you to come in somebody to give you a job or give you money for your startup
I think the next part way more interesting can you actually do it
because everything is built against that just because you want to go into
something else doesn’t mean you’ll be successful so if you don’t count on it
and a short that you can do it don’t worry about commencing and everybody
just convince somebody because then you’re on the record just the commands
one person that you can make videos and then you’re on the record and neither
you make it and they’re good for you make them and their shit good piece near commencing one person I
did there was consent like in the

“What’s the best way to start a business “in a space that you’re unfamiliar with, “but see massive opportunity in?” – Become educated. You know this is a great question. I’m glad you asked that. It was a question that was asked a lot of me in 2006, 7, 8, 9 that I haven’t heard while. Maybe because India is doing the picking. And so you know. I think that if you see a huge opportunity if you think eSports is
going to be a huge space like I believe. Well then maybe go intern for an eSports company, maybe get a job at an eSports company. Maybe you read absolutely everything about it. That was one of my few chapters in life. This whole Web 2.0 thing back to Flickr. I read everything on Tech Crunch. I read people’s tweets. It was one time when I actually consumed because I needed to get educated. And then once I found I had the base, then I rolled back to where I normally go. You put in the work. You know if you see a space. You become massively educated. You network in it tremendously. I believe in online video in 2006, I went to three Meetups. In the video 2.0 or the video. What was it called? Yeah Web 2.0 Video Meetup Group. DRock you have been so proud
I went to these damn things. People talking about bullshit cameras and lighting (beep) that it’s
the content (beep). It was really. You like that? It was an interesting time for me where I was soaking up information. If you see an opportunity, go soak up the information. Go become a practitioner. Go work in a company in it. Go to all the events around it. Read about it go to conferences and listen about it. Listen to the podcast like learn. – Learn mother (bleep). – Learn about it. I like that you getting feisty here. Learn about it and then you can do. But you know, if you believe in something you have to become educated in it. And then become a practitioner in it. And then execute in it. And then adjust to the realities of it.

“dear Gary, in episode 122 you
say at 22 to 24 don’t settle. “What is the settling age? “I thought you should never settle?” – That’s so weird that’s so funny. – That’s coming right from
something he told you. – Yes, yes. What’s interesting is
we just talked about it though how I just said from 20 to 30 that’s funny that’s interesting timing. I think first of all I
think every goddamn answer on this show has to be very personal meaning, if you and your boyfriend or girlfriend. Have a baby when you’re both seventeen because that’s what happened in your life practicality enters your world. – Casey I was just at Casey’s. – That’s exactly right. Practicality comes knocking. What’s up man practicality here. You’re a different 17 year old because you have a child coming. – Something you’re going to know you’re going to have to raise a child. – So for every single
person that’s watching. I think practicality or settling, because they’re cousins they don’t have to be the exact same thing but their cousins in them, comes at different times. I do think. Look I know a lot of 40 to 50 year olds that are still living in outer space and dreaming. And I think there’s diminishing returns at some level around that. Especially if it hasn’t happened already. Unless their happy. Unless their happy. – But isn’t practicality
the thing you dip into because you can be living your dream. Pretending live in fantasy land but you’ve got to pay rent. You’ve got to eat. And sometimes that actually dip into real life. Is what motivates your passion. Those two things they. – That’s Casey’s favorite answer, right? – Is it? Casey’s favorite answer, I think he said in the show was do something you hate. to realize how much you
want to do something else. Go wash dishes like he did. – Unbelievably motivating. – What the thing you did the most, in your life, what’s the thing you did the most that you hated? – I went to school for fucking ever. – Yeah. – Forever. – From six to 18 I hated life. – That’s why I love it so much now. I’m not in fucking English class. – Seriously we got to put a
filter on this culturally. This is a real thing. People are going to college
for all the wrong reasons. Do you need a piece a paper that says you have to have
a piece of paper to cut someone open? I want my doctor to be certified. I want my airline pilot to be certified. Anything else? Why, maybe there’s some value there. If you’re exploring. If you’re trying to figure your shit out schools a reasonable thing. The average person graduates
college at $35,200 in debt. That’s the average. So for everybody who
graduates with only 10 grand, there’s someone who graduates with 50. That’s bullshit. – Preaching. I’ve been pumping out some serious content around this issue. So the answer is it
different for everybody. Some people get practical at 16. They don’t have that risk tolerance. – Or you figure it out. There is a practicality
when you figure out what you want to do. Then you got to get to work. Would you call that practical? – Here’s what I truly think. I think shit is really hitting the fan. The Internet, I don’t know if you’ve heard of it obviously all of us have, it’s only 20 years old. I know it’s been around for a long time. I know there’s nerds that say, I know. I mean when Windows 95 came out, normal people started
going on the Internet we are 20 years into this thing. This thing is fundamentally
the biggest culture shift of our time.
– For sure. – They’ve changed everything. We’re just starting and all the rules need to be thought about in a very aggressive way because there’s so many
alternatives to the way that we always thought. The amount of people that go to college Because that’s what their parents want because their parents were
sold on the propaganda of college before that– – It’s literally about
their ego most of the time. – 100 percent. – My son went to this, went to this. – I made a shirt called Shmarvard. That is literally my
number one selling t-shirt. It’s not even close. – I saw it. Is it blue? – Yes, yes. India? – I didn’t know the story that’s good. – [Voiceover] Isham asked,

“should never take a loan
to study entrepreneurship. “what should they do instead?” – I believe that if you go to college and collect debt to be an
entrepreneur, not a doctor, not a lawyer, not a
consultant at Baynor McKinsey where you have to go to
an Ivy League school, graduate and leverage that. But a true entrepreneur,
like father and brother, go out there and hustle, be a merchant. You know, that to me
is a crazy proposition to collect debt for in a 2016 world. So what I think they should
do instead is go work. Literally just go work,
I mean think about it, instead of going $80,000 in
debt, you can go work for $1 and be way up in the pot,
you can work for free and be on the way positive. And speaking of that, that
speaks to my next strategy. Go work for somebody,
a woman that you admire the way she did it and
take a lot less money working in her organization
than somebody else because you’re trying to
sap the IP out of her, out of that leadership. So not only go work, go work for the lowest
possible way you can survive. Go live with four roommates
in a studio apartment and eat fast food if you have too. You can go lose that weight
later, like the I did. The bottom line is you need to go work in an environment that inspires you and really you want it to be a place that you want to be like. To go work for somebody
that you want to be like is a tremendous value
proposition for an entrepreneur. When I think about what Andy and DRock have been affected by through osmosis, they’re probably scared to think about some of the tendencies they now have that are my tendencies
because I’ve affected it. It’s crazy how it works, it’s crazy, you should see the ego all 600 people at VaynerMedia walk around
with, it’s disgusting. But the bottom line is
it’s affected from the top so go work for somebody you
admire and want to replicate and regardless of the cost,
if you’re a true entrepreneur. – [Voiceover] Elite Sports Tipster asks,